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		<title>By: Stats for October 2012 &#171; In Caelo et in Terra</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 10:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Piotr</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 06:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Mark,

I think that you have raised an important topic regaring Catholic presence (especially moral teaching) in media, regular attacks faces  and a sort of journalism that we long for as balanced adn objective presentatation of orthodox Catholic point of view. In Poland where I live, we see more and more very biased coverage of Catholic issues and relatively less prounanced voice of courageous Catholic journalist (and often layman if they manged to get access to mainstream media which is rare) who present faithfully views of the Church. We live in Europe currently in a period when hostility against Catholicism has grown enormounsly, mostly due to relatively small minority of strongly liberal media which regularily attack teaching of R-C Church. I agree that there is dormant Catholic potential in media - not mainstream   but rather internet (see how many good Catholic bloggs you can find, especially in English speaking regions, and - what is interesting- many of them, quite good,  run by converts to Cathlicsm). This is a chance as I have relatively limited hope that Catholic point of view will get through thick &quot;curtain&quot; of political correctness dominating mainstream media (even if the viewers and readers might be sometimes interested in see this other point of view). In Poland, mainstream media journalist have very limited knowledge about the teaching of Church, real issues of Catholic life and massively distort the picture of the  teaching of Benedict XVI also expliting aggresively any mistakes committed by clergy. Rarely you will find in liberal media like Gazeta Wyborcza or Dzienniki (local dailies in Poland) any balanced debate in which Catholic point of view is not ridiculued or attacked. The problem is also that even preists and sometimes bishops are not sufficiently prepared to clearly and comprehensively present Catholic point of view and balance the secular media bias. Also there are dissident journalist, a whole group of them, who try to undermine in the minds of the readers the substance of Benedict XVI or overall Church teachung. Hence, we need to help and support those courageous and reasonable who properly portray Catholic point of view including promotion of good Catholic blogs.
God bless you 

Piotr, from Warsaw]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>I think that you have raised an important topic regaring Catholic presence (especially moral teaching) in media, regular attacks faces  and a sort of journalism that we long for as balanced adn objective presentatation of orthodox Catholic point of view. In Poland where I live, we see more and more very biased coverage of Catholic issues and relatively less prounanced voice of courageous Catholic journalist (and often layman if they manged to get access to mainstream media which is rare) who present faithfully views of the Church. We live in Europe currently in a period when hostility against Catholicism has grown enormounsly, mostly due to relatively small minority of strongly liberal media which regularily attack teaching of R-C Church. I agree that there is dormant Catholic potential in media &#8211; not mainstream   but rather internet (see how many good Catholic bloggs you can find, especially in English speaking regions, and &#8211; what is interesting- many of them, quite good,  run by converts to Cathlicsm). This is a chance as I have relatively limited hope that Catholic point of view will get through thick &#8220;curtain&#8221; of political correctness dominating mainstream media (even if the viewers and readers might be sometimes interested in see this other point of view). In Poland, mainstream media journalist have very limited knowledge about the teaching of Church, real issues of Catholic life and massively distort the picture of the  teaching of Benedict XVI also expliting aggresively any mistakes committed by clergy. Rarely you will find in liberal media like Gazeta Wyborcza or Dzienniki (local dailies in Poland) any balanced debate in which Catholic point of view is not ridiculued or attacked. The problem is also that even preists and sometimes bishops are not sufficiently prepared to clearly and comprehensively present Catholic point of view and balance the secular media bias. Also there are dissident journalist, a whole group of them, who try to undermine in the minds of the readers the substance of Benedict XVI or overall Church teachung. Hence, we need to help and support those courageous and reasonable who properly portray Catholic point of view including promotion of good Catholic blogs.<br />
God bless you </p>
<p>Piotr, from Warsaw</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Janovcik</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jan Janovcik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 07:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How to put it most charitably... I don&#039;t know the lady in question, nor Eric van den Berg, but invoking late cardinal Martini... Let&#039;s say it doesn&#039;t add much to his credibility...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to put it most charitably&#8230; I don&#8217;t know the lady in question, nor Eric van den Berg, but invoking late cardinal Martini&#8230; Let&#8217;s say it doesn&#8217;t add much to his credibility&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://incaelo.wordpress.com/2012/10/26/the-catholic-voice/#comment-13167</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think - to put it mildly - that Mrs. Orbán&#039;s appearance in the Pauw &amp; Witteman show was her finest hour, but Mr. Van den Berg&#039;s withering attack is uncharitable and unbecoming a Catholic. Although much (but not all) of his criticism is justified, there are other and better ways to voice it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think &#8211; to put it mildly &#8211; that Mrs. Orbán&#8217;s appearance in the Pauw &amp; Witteman show was her finest hour, but Mr. Van den Berg&#8217;s withering attack is uncharitable and unbecoming a Catholic. Although much (but not all) of his criticism is justified, there are other and better ways to voice it.</p>
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		<title>By: incaelo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[incaelo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 09:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are right about the moniker. I have read her book, but it s been a while, so I didn&#039;t recall her use of the name. I have changed my blog post to indicate that you did not come up with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right about the moniker. I have read her book, but it s been a while, so I didn&#8217;t recall her use of the name. I have changed my blog post to indicate that you did not come up with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric van den Berg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric van den Berg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Mark,

May I remind you that &#039;pearl-necklaced bitch&#039; was written by Mariska Orbán de Haas herself in her acclaimed book &#039;Blonde, perky, praying&#039;? 

Her deputy editor named her as such so fingerpoint into the right direction.
The term got lots of emotions, justly, because it is a really bad word. No catholic fellow worker calls his boss &#039;bitch&#039;, not even as a joke. 
So I used that particular phrase in quotation marks as an example of such blatant irony of Katholiek Nieuwsblad itself in this case. 

Eric

For your interested readers of your blog and for your own judgement: http://katholiek.nl/asp/default.asp?t=weblog_detail&amp;weblog_id=6660.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>May I remind you that &#8216;pearl-necklaced bitch&#8217; was written by Mariska Orbán de Haas herself in her acclaimed book &#8216;Blonde, perky, praying&#8217;? </p>
<p>Her deputy editor named her as such so fingerpoint into the right direction.<br />
The term got lots of emotions, justly, because it is a really bad word. No catholic fellow worker calls his boss &#8216;bitch&#8217;, not even as a joke.<br />
So I used that particular phrase in quotation marks as an example of such blatant irony of Katholiek Nieuwsblad itself in this case. </p>
<p>Eric</p>
<p>For your interested readers of your blog and for your own judgement: <a href="http://katholiek.nl/asp/default.asp?t=weblog_detail&#038;weblog_id=6660" rel="nofollow">http://katholiek.nl/asp/default.asp?t=weblog_detail&#038;weblog_id=6660</a>.</p>
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