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		<title>Comment on The exorcising Pope by Matthew B. Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew B. Rose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 12:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a passage in all three of the synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark, and Luke) where the Apostles are unable to exorcise a demon that causes a boy yo convulse and foam at the mouth (Mt. 17:14-20; Mk. 9:14-29; Luke 9:37-43).  After exorcising the demon, Jesus rebukes the disciples for their lack of Faith, and answers their question about why they couldn&#039;t drive out the demon: &quot;This kind can only come out through prayer&quot; (Mk. 9:29).  This forms the reason behind the Church&#039;s insistence that exorcisms be planned out in advance, after a period of prayer, fasting, and preparation.  To perform such an exorcism on such short notice isn&#039;t just unusual, its dangerous!  Spiritually and physically.  

If there is audio with the video, perhaps someone can translate what the father and the pope say to each other.  That might clear up matters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a passage in all three of the synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark, and Luke) where the Apostles are unable to exorcise a demon that causes a boy yo convulse and foam at the mouth (Mt. 17:14-20; Mk. 9:14-29; Luke 9:37-43).  After exorcising the demon, Jesus rebukes the disciples for their lack of Faith, and answers their question about why they couldn&#8217;t drive out the demon: &#8220;This kind can only come out through prayer&#8221; (Mk. 9:29).  This forms the reason behind the Church&#8217;s insistence that exorcisms be planned out in advance, after a period of prayer, fasting, and preparation.  To perform such an exorcism on such short notice isn&#8217;t just unusual, its dangerous!  Spiritually and physically.  </p>
<p>If there is audio with the video, perhaps someone can translate what the father and the pope say to each other.  That might clear up matters.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The exorcising Pope by EHJV</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EHJV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 11:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m uncertain why people claim that it couldn&#039;t have been excorism because it happened on such short notice. Jesus never seemed to take a long time before excorcising...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m uncertain why people claim that it couldn&#8217;t have been excorism because it happened on such short notice. Jesus never seemed to take a long time before excorcising&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on The exorcising Pope by Francis Siefken</title>
		<link>http://incaelo.wordpress.com/2013/05/21/the-exorcising-pope/#comment-14969</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francis Siefken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 09:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A small remark, you should ask the originator of this claim yesterday; the (claimed) vadre retro expert on exorcisms or panel before passing &quot;definite&quot; judgement on the Italian discussion what he meant, perhaps he&#039;s just misunderstood. Of course a formal ritual exorcism cannot be performed in such a short timeframe or as you argue is unprepared and on short notice on the spot. 
If this panel or this exorcist meant &quot;an evil spirit&quot; (whatever that may be) probably left the boy after prayer instead of the official exorcism procedure, than that could be the case. If the response after the short prayer is consistent with the experience, then it could be &#039;more or less&#039; true.
Perhaps this videosegment provided an opportunity for attracting attention for the next show on friday on Pope Francis and his handling of satan (as they had previous shows on this topic).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A small remark, you should ask the originator of this claim yesterday; the (claimed) vadre retro expert on exorcisms or panel before passing &#8220;definite&#8221; judgement on the Italian discussion what he meant, perhaps he&#8217;s just misunderstood. Of course a formal ritual exorcism cannot be performed in such a short timeframe or as you argue is unprepared and on short notice on the spot.<br />
If this panel or this exorcist meant &#8220;an evil spirit&#8221; (whatever that may be) probably left the boy after prayer instead of the official exorcism procedure, than that could be the case. If the response after the short prayer is consistent with the experience, then it could be &#8216;more or less&#8217; true.<br />
Perhaps this videosegment provided an opportunity for attracting attention for the next show on friday on Pope Francis and his handling of satan (as they had previous shows on this topic).</p>
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		<title>Comment on A problematic manifesto by The bishop and the professors &#8211; presenting reality &#124; In Caelo et in Terra</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The bishop and the professors &#8211; presenting reality &#124; In Caelo et in Terra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 21:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] month I wrote about a curious manifesto from the hands of a group of professors who criticised the general trend of parish mergers in the [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] month I wrote about a curious manifesto from the hands of a group of professors who criticised the general trend of parish mergers in the [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pigeons and Popes by Theo van den Elsen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Theo van den Elsen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 21:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doves - but for alliteration&#039;s sake I think you may prefer &quot;pigeons&quot; - tend to take their symbolic function very serious.
When my mother was on her death-bed in hospital, one morning the nurses told us, that all night long two pigeons had been sitting in the window-sill. We, her children, like to believe that they were sent there by our deceased father and brother, who both were enthusiastic birdwatchers, to accompany her to Our Father&#039;s House. The next day she quietly passed from earthly to eternal life.
Th. v.d. Elsen]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doves &#8211; but for alliteration&#8217;s sake I think you may prefer &#8220;pigeons&#8221; &#8211; tend to take their symbolic function very serious.<br />
When my mother was on her death-bed in hospital, one morning the nurses told us, that all night long two pigeons had been sitting in the window-sill. We, her children, like to believe that they were sent there by our deceased father and brother, who both were enthusiastic birdwatchers, to accompany her to Our Father&#8217;s House. The next day she quietly passed from earthly to eternal life.<br />
Th. v.d. Elsen</p>
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		<title>Comment on Something lighthearted by Pigeons and Popes &#124; In Caelo et in Terra</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pigeons and Popes &#124; In Caelo et in Terra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 14:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] presence,. It happened to Pope Francis earlier this week, and to Pope emeritus Benedict XVI in January of 2012.  Whatever the reason, it is all a timely reminder of Pentecost approaching&#8230; Two more days to [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] presence,. It happened to Pope Francis earlier this week, and to Pope emeritus Benedict XVI in January of 2012.  Whatever the reason, it is all a timely reminder of Pentecost approaching&#8230; Two more days to [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cardinal watch: Cardinal Martino turns 80 by gianluca</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gianluca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 03:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Articolo molto interessante… di sicuro non sempre i soliti consigli triti e ritriti… grazie per lo spunto.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Articolo molto interessante… di sicuro non sempre i soliti consigli triti e ritriti… grazie per lo spunto.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hot topic, or how the Church does, in fact, not promote violence by Steve</title>
		<link>http://incaelo.wordpress.com/2013/05/16/hot-topic-or-how-the-church-does-in-fact-not-promote-violence/#comment-14931</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 00:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent article!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dutch disaster? Michael Voris on Dutch Catholicism by Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 14:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, he is spot on. Voris does not try to sweeten the bitter pill. If we don&#039;t want Catholic fait to go further down the drain, we have to draw on everyone&#039;s talents. For one thing, I think courses in apologetics should be available for everyone, so we are better able to deal with the anti Catholic or even downright Atheist rants we are confronted with just about everywhere, these days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, he is spot on. Voris does not try to sweeten the bitter pill. If we don&#8217;t want Catholic fait to go further down the drain, we have to draw on everyone&#8217;s talents. For one thing, I think courses in apologetics should be available for everyone, so we are better able to deal with the anti Catholic or even downright Atheist rants we are confronted with just about everywhere, these days.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dutch disaster? Michael Voris on Dutch Catholicism by Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 00:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree. As a Canadian of Dutch decent I find that many Catholics make fun of the Netherlands and even Dutch saints (I recently read an article that was quite critical of St. Hubert) making the Dutch the antithesis of the &quot;perfect&quot; Italian Catholic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. As a Canadian of Dutch decent I find that many Catholics make fun of the Netherlands and even Dutch saints (I recently read an article that was quite critical of St. Hubert) making the Dutch the antithesis of the &#8220;perfect&#8221; Italian Catholic.</p>
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